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GM Haliste reminds us of the current items that will not work with a lightening or deepening note, and clarifies about those things that only hold 1 item, or are tiny:

http://bit.ly/2lpxP1l

Category: Game Design Discussions
Topic: Items and Inventory

Date: 10/28/2017 01:04 AM CDT
From: CANDIDE
Subj: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
Can we get the lightening notes and deepening notes to work on

Eisenrucks script.

And the one that I think will be harder

Morphing Container

GBB


Date: 10/28/2017 01:11 AM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes

see here re denied scripts:

https://gswiki.play.net/Lightening#Denied_Scripts


Date: 10/28/2017 09:07 AM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
This is the current list of denials:

Weight Reducing Containers
Morphing Containers
Dwarffest shield
SimpleBooks
Smuggling Sacks
Disarming Kits
Feature concealers (this is mostly for a specific version of a feature concealer that is pinworn)
WoundedWear
Eisenrucks

I also want to clarify something about the deepening note’s functionality. If your item currently holds one item for a max of one pound (or ten pounds or fifteen pounds), then using a deepening note is only going to increase the poundage — not the max items. In addition, things with tiny or very small capacity are ineligible, regardless of the script approval.

If a script has been denied to be used with a deepen note, it is also denied for use with lighten.

~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
SGM, Events

Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.


Date: 10/28/2017 09:29 AM CDT
From: LORDEVARIN
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
Helpful information. Thanks for sharing.


!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, “I don’t wanna!”


Date: 10/28/2017 09:44 AM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes

what is a Disarming Kit? Is that different from a standard locksmith’s toolkit?


Date: 10/28/2017 10:57 AM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
It’s the same.

~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
SGM, Events

Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.


Date: 10/28/2017 01:30 PM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes

>It’s the same.

Thanks, list on wiki is updated.

Do you ever approve anything for just lightening or just deepening? I submitted a pair of scripted boots this morning/last night(?) that I really only want lightened.


Date: 10/28/2017 04:49 PM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
>Do you ever approve anything for just lightening or just deepening?

No – it’s all or nothing.

~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
SGM, Events

Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.


Date: 10/28/2017 08:04 PM CDT
From: KARDIOS
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
How do we use the notes? It says to Redeem it. Do I need to be holding the item to which it is to be applied when I type Redeem? Does it automatically affect the item, or is it like a Sadie alteration scroll (meaning my item will disappear for a few days)? Can it be used on items that Analyze as being unable to be lightened or deepened?


Date: 10/28/2017 08:30 PM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes

https://gswiki.play.net/Lightening#Automated_Lightening_Certificates


Date: 10/28/2017 09:20 PM CDT
From: KARDIOS
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes

<< https://gswiki.play.net/Lightening#Automated_Lightening_Certificates >>

Thanks!


Date: 10/30/2017 06:53 AM CDT
From: DARCONAS
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
A clarification request:

I have boots that are very small amount for a few items. It can be lightened and deepened by a merchant.

If I do so (live, not notes), does it increase the size of the few items or increase the number of items? In other words, do only “any number” increase the amount in a relevant way?


Date: 10/30/2017 09:42 AM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
If a container is set to only hold 1 item or 2 items (for instance, a hat – or a pair of gloves – or any number of other things) then it’s only ever going to hold what it was originally built as. The pound-limit will increase on deepens, but typically not the number of items. This is generally intended, since a hat is not meant to be storage in the same manner that a backpack is.

In addition, there are some items that also limit the max weight of items being placed inside a container. Light/deep notes do not affect that value, either – same with live merchants.

~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
SGM, Events

Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.


Date: 04/30/2018 05:18 PM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes

Since the last update was 6 months ago, are there any further additions to the list?

Thank you


Date: 05/02/2018 05:51 AM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
There has been lots of updates for approved scripts. Denied scripts are SwordBelt (dual-scabbard two weapon sword belt) and BodiceBlade (conceals a dagger in a bodice or shirt). Those are my names — I’m not sure of the names on the wiki for those scripts.

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever


Date: 05/02/2018 11:57 AM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
… is that a Vanishing Point gown?


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Date: 05/02/2018 12:16 PM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
I don’t know, but if a Vanishing Point gown takes daggers and hides them inside, that will be denied as well!

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever


Date: 05/02/2018 01:28 PM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
They do! 🙂

I am going to buy a box of labels for you to label all your scripts m’Lady Haliste!

write This is called HideyCorset, but the players call it VanishingPoint


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Date: 05/02/2018 03:30 PM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
Well, bear in mind that there are typically multiple scripts that may do similar things, but are truly separate scripts. This one specifically notes that it’s bodice and shirt — it does not mention gowns in the description. I did not open up the script and investigate, but… just mentioning that for your information.

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever


Date: 05/02/2018 03:42 PM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
I understand. And we might as well put Vanishing Point gowns on the list, right? Because … hidden daggers.

🙂


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