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There was a little drama over pricing of the items in the Dark and Dangerous Shop’s Vault on Monday night. After some back and forth, and spiking blood pressures, it’s open, it’s set, and this nice gear is back on sale with a slowly scaling price scheme. Thanks to all the cool heads that prevailed.

http://bit.ly/2pfcWEy

Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena

Date: 04/25/2017 01:48 AM CDT
From: SIMU-WYROM
Subj: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
Okay, here is the deal with the shop. Prices are reset. They are going to scale much more slowly. I will monitor sales over the week and see how it goes.

Keep in mind, that with this gear being so cheap, buying tons of it for resale may not be a wise decision. I don’t see the market bouncing back on these specific sets. So try to only buy what you need.

I’ll be reopening the shop in a few moments.


Wyrom, PM


Date: 04/25/2017 02:28 AM CDT
From: SONOFTHENORTH13
Subj: Re: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
Wyrom, can anything be done for the people who bought it the first time for 20k+ on the sliding pricing before the reset? It seems like they bought an item they really wanted and were willing to pay more for to get it than the people who just waited and complained. I didn’t even purchase on the sliding scaling I just think it is slightly unfair to those who paid 20+ before the reset.


Date: 04/25/2017 02:33 AM CDT
From: SIMU-WYROM
Subj: Re: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
Nope, those prices scaled within 25 minutes. Prices may get higher than that with these, considering the craze for them. We’ll see.


Wyrom, PM


Date: 04/25/2017 05:34 AM CDT
From: INSURANCE
Subj: Re: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
>>Nope, those prices scaled within 25 minutes. Prices may get higher than that with these, considering the craze for them. We’ll see.

>>Wyrom, PM

Seems like a solid solution.


Date: 04/25/2017 06:10 AM CDT
From: ARCHSENEX
Subj: Re: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
My only requests – if you do have to issue refunds, please have it be un-redeemed scrip, because the items are on characters other than my main buyer. Oh, and if you have to do so within the last 24 hours of the event, extend the shop time so I can pick up something else.

Much appreciated.


Date: 04/25/2017 11:44 AM CDT
From: CURTIS
Subj: Re: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
FWIW, I know you had no good options here, but I don’t think you chose the least-bad one. This is going to really hurt the game on a much longer timescale then the momentary upset of people getting a refund.

This reminds me of banning Magic cards. There’s always an outcry from some people about Wizards “stealing” from them and devaluing their cards, but plenty people realize that the overall health of the game is far more important to the price of their cardboard than momentary price fluctuations. In a short while, things get better, and people get over it. I think you chose avoiding a short term fire over the longterm health of them game.

With that said, I know there were no good options and you have access to way more data than I do. If I’m wrong, I’d be interested to hear why.


Date: 04/25/2017 11:52 AM CDT
From: RISHIB1
Subj: Re: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
I didn’t plan to buy anything from this shop b/c my primary is a pure and has armor better than this, and my secondary uses TWC katars (where flares are better) and is in chain armor, so take opinion with a grain of salt if you wish…my opinion is that you should take the PR hit and just seize and refund all purchases.

Yes, everyone gets supremely annoyed, but you know what, you still have BS to purchase other stuff with.

The player economy getting destroyed is not worth it.

(Alternate, if too harsh: let everyone keep one armor and one weapon. That may be harder to administer though.)

Rishi
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Date: 04/25/2017 12:06 PM CDT
From: CURTIS
Subj: Re: Dark and Dangerous Vault – Final Update
So the problem here is loss aversion. Even though they get a refund to get back where they started, they feel like they missed out. What if you gave them something else back? Like refund 110% (arbitrary number) of what they spent? That way they still feel like they “got something” for their efforts.